Introduction to HUFs

by Guest Blogger on June 21, 2012

in Tax

This post is written by Shiv Kukreja

The Hindu Undivided Family (HUF) structure is a very effective way to save tax and a lot of people are eligible to create HUFs but somehow there is very little awareness about it.

I think that’s because most of us don’t know how easy it is to create an HUF. In fact, it is as easy as getting married. I would say it might be difficult for somebody to get married but it is very easy to create an HUF.

An HUF is automatically constituted the moment a person gets married and completes seven pheras around the holy fire and they get married.

That means a Hindu male needs to do nothing to get an HUF created but to get married to a Hindu female. It is one marriage gift that all Hindus get from the government or Hindu Law. It is not necessary to have children to create HUF.

Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists can also create an HUF under the Income Tax Act even though they are not governed by the Hindu law.

What is an HUF?

An HUF is a separate and a distinct tax entity. The income of an HUF can be assessed in the hands of the HUF alone and not in the hands of any of its members. The senior most member of the family who manages the affairs of the family is called the Karta. Minimum two people (at least one male member) are required for the HUF to come into an existence.

A coparcener is a member of the HUF, who by birth acquires an interest in the joint property of the family, whether inherited or otherwise acquired by the family.

Coparceners have a right to claim partition of the HUF. Other members of the family cannot ask for a partition of the HUF and have no right to claim a share in the family property. Coparceners consist of a Karta and his lineal descendants within the following four degrees:

  • 1st Degree: Holder of the ancestral property for the first time – Karta
  • 2nd Degree: Son(s) and Daughter(s) of the Karta
  • 3rd Degree: Grandson(s) of the Karta
  • 4th Degree: Great Grandson(s) of the Karta


A daughter, after her marriage, would remain a coparcener in her father’s HUF and at the same time, can become a member in her husband’s HUF. In the event of the death of the Karta and in the absence of any male member, two females can continue to run the HUF and the senior female can take over as the Karta. A son can create his own HUF while remaining a coparcener in his father’s HUF.

Capital Infusion: Here comes the most difficult part for someone to start the HUF operating – generating capital for the HUF.

One should not contribute his own personal assets or funds into the HUF as any income generated from these assets or from its investment will be clubbed into Individual’s personal income under Section 64 (2) of the Income Tax Act and hence taxed accordingly.

But there is a way out – one can transfer his personal assets or funds into the HUF if the income generated from these assets or from its investment results in a tax free income (like tax free bonds) and hence there is no scope of any tax liability due to clubbing of taxable income.

This tax free income can then be reinvested to earn even taxable income and eventually all of the income would fall out of the clubbing provisions.

Gifts or inheritances meant for the benefit of all the members of a family should be diverted specifically to the HUF. HUFs are liable to pay tax if the value of the gifts taken from the strangers exceeds Rs. 50,000. Though there is a limit for an HUF to take gifts from the strangers, gifts of a higher value can be taken from the relatives, who are not the members of the HUF.

Here is the list of people who fall in the category of relatives:

  • Karta’s Wife
  • Brother(s) or Sister(s) of the Karta
  • Brother-in-law or Sister-in-law of the Karta
  • Immediate Uncle(s) or Aunt(s) of the Karta
  • Immediate Uncle-in-law or Aunt-in-law of the Karta
  • Lineal ascendant or descendent of the Karta or Karta’s wife

A father can also gift money to his son’s HUF but need to specify in the gift deed that the gift has been made to the son’s HUF and not to the son as an individual. Ancestral property can be an asset of the HUF and an income earned on this property can be classified as the income of the HUF. If any of these ancestral properties are sold, the money received on such a sale should be transferred to the HUF.

How to get started with the HUF?

Once there are two eligible family members ready to operate an HUF, the first thing to do is to apply for a PAN card in the name of the HUF and have a separate bank account opened.

For a PAN application, an affidavit by the Karta stating the name, father’s name and address of all the coparceners on the date of the application is considered sufficient as the document proof of identity of the HUF. Also, the identity and address proof of the karta will be treated as the address proof of the HUF.

Then start seeking for gifts or inheritances from relatives or strangers, keep on infusing your own capital, transfer family’s assets/properties to the HUF and do all the possible things that you can keeping in mind the clubbing of income provisions.

Here is a link that contains a sample HUF deed.

Sections/Provisions under which HUFs can claim Deduction/Exemptions and Save Tax

As already mentioned, an HUF is a separate and a distinct tax entity and just like any other Resident Individual assessee, it also enjoys a basic tax exemption of Rs. 2,00,000. All other tax slabs are also exactly same as for an Individual. Here is a useful link from Bemoneyaware that shows the TDS rates for Individuals and HUFs.

Section 80C: HUFs can claim tax exemption under Section 80C by investing money in ELSS, ULIPs, traditional insurance plans, NSC or 5 year Bank FD with a scheduled bank. Principal repayment on a housing loan taken by the HUF can also be claimed under this section. HUFs are not allowed to invest in PPF anymore.

Section 80D: Members of the HUF can take a family floater policy and make the HUF pay for its premium and enjoy the tax benefit too.

Section 80DD: If any dependant member of the HUF is normally disabled (not less than 40% disabled) and the HUF makes an expenditure for the medical treatment, training and rehabilitation of that disabled member, then the HUF can claim a deduction of Rs. 50K under this section. If the condition is of a severe disability (equal to or more than 80%) then the HUF can claim a deduction of Rs. 100,000.

Section 80TTA: Interest earned on the money deposited in the savings bank account up to Rs. 10,000 p.a. is exempt for an HUF also.

Section 24 (b): Interest on Housing Loan: If an HUF takes a loan for buying out a residential property, it can claim a deduction of Rs. 150,000 in respect of Interest on Housing Loan.

30% Standard Deduction on a Rented Property: An HUF can claim a standard deduction of 30% from the rental income it earns by letting out a property.

Capital Gains on a House Property: Tax on Capital Gains made by selling a house property can be saved if the HUF invests the proceeds into buying another property within two years from the sale of the said property. The money can also be invested in Capital Gain bonds offered by REC and NHAI with a lock-in period of 3 years. The interest income on these bonds would be considered a taxable income of the HUF.

The table below shows how the income of an individual in the 30% tax bracket can be split between two entities to lower the final tax outgo:

Introduction to HUF

Introduction to HUF

Some Other Important Points

  • Karta can be paid a reasonable salary for his services of managing day to day affairs of the HUF. The salary will be considered his personal income but at the same time it is deductible as an expense from the books of the HUF.
  • Only one member or coparcener cannot form an HUF. There have to be at least two members and at least one male member.
  • HUF can keep its normal functioning even with two females after the death of its sole male member.
  • The Hindu Succession (Amendment) Act 2005 has given equal rights to male and female in the matters of inheritance as a result of which a daughter now also acquires the status of a coparcener.
  • An HUF cannot become partner in a firm but a Karta can.

These were some important aspects when it comes to creating an HUF and everyone, who is eligible to create an HUF and pays taxes, should strongly consider this option as it is a very efficient and good way to save tax.

{ 153 comments… read them below or add one }

Sachin June 22, 2012 at 8:52 PM

very informative article..one clarification, so by creating HUF, someone can redirect all his FD, capital Gains towards HUF and get tax benefits..correct me if I am assuming wrong.

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Manikaran Singal June 23, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Sachin, one has to transfer the complete asset to HUF…and cannot just transfer the income generated from that asset. For e.g If you have some property generating rent…to get the benefit of HUF , you have to transfer the property to HUF which will attarct the registeration charges and transfer fees.
Also one should be sure of Section 64 (clubbing of Income) before accepting any gift or transferring any asset into HUF to avoid furthur tax complications.
HUF is a nice concept and helps in tax saving also, but in many cases you cannot just start a HUF and starts claiming the benefits immidiately. You have to understand the nuances in detail and then start working on it slowly and gradually. Like Recieve gifts through HUF , Inheretance through HUF (though this is not in your hand, but your parents can reduce your tax burden by writing a will in favour of your HUF) etc.
Also there are some practical problems in HUF which one will realise later on like…you cannot write any WILL on HUF Assets . So whatever is there in HUF is no longer your personal property but a joint property.

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Shiv Kukreja June 24, 2012 at 1:41 AM

Hi Sachin… One needs to be very careful while transferring any property or asset to the HUF. If the property or asset belongs to an individual then the income generated out of it gets clubbed with the income of the individual and the combined income is taxed accordingly. This way the whole purpose of doing wise tax planning gets defeated.

One should transfer only those ancestral properties or assets which belong to the family or the income genarated out of it is a family income. The best way to form capital for one’s HUF is to get some property or asset transferred to the HUF as part of a will or inheritance.

When any ancestral property is sold, the sale proceeds received can directly be transferred to the HUF bank account and the same can be reinvested to generate some income. Then this income will be the income of the HUF and it starts the tax saving cycle.

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Sachin June 22, 2012 at 8:54 PM

and also can get tax relief in Home Loan principal and Interest. Do I need to add HUF also in Ownership and Loan Account?

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Shiv Kukreja June 24, 2012 at 1:54 AM

HUF will get the tax deductions for both the principal payment as well as the interest payment, only if the property belongs to the HUF and the home loan has been taken in the name of the HUF.

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Salil Sood June 24, 2012 at 3:53 PM

I have a question on the following extract from the article
“But there is a way out – one can transfer his personal assets or funds into the HUF if the income generated from these assets or from its investment results in a tax free income (like tax free bonds) and hence there is no scope of any tax liability due to clubbing of taxable income.
This tax free income can then be reinvested to earn even taxable income and eventually all of the income would fall out of the clubbing provisions.”

So, if I transfer 10 year tax free bonds currently held in my name to my HUF, the interest earned on these bonds will anyway be non taxable. If however, the HUF utilizes the interest income to open a FD, will the interest on the FD not be clubbed with my individual income? Also, how would the principle corpus be treated at the end of ten years when the bond matures? Would it accrue back to the individual or the HUF?

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Shiv Kukreja June 25, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Hi Salil… Yes, the interest income earned on the FD will not be clubbed with your income. The taxable income earned, by reinvesting the tax free income, falls out of the clubbing provisions. HUF will be liable to pay the tax, if any, on the taxable income. The tax free income will remain in the books of the HUF.

Also, once a property or an asset is transferred/gifted to an HUF, it becomes HUF’s property/asset. Upon maturity, say after 10 years, the principal amount will accrue to the HUF and not to the individual.

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Saurabh June 25, 2012 at 8:21 PM

I have read several articles about how to create HUF and how to infuse money into it.
What I don’t quite understand and that nobody talks about is how to get money out of it?

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Shiv Kukreja June 26, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Hi Saurabh… Money or Assets flow out of HUF as part of a will or inheritance once HUF undergoes a partition. I think nobody talks about it because everybody is concerned about saving tax by creating an HUF and money flowing out of an HUF doesnt solve the purpose.

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Nikhil Lalwani August 3, 2012 at 10:07 PM

if a father his having n HUF in which he is karta and his two son’s and his wife were the member of fathers HUF and both son’s are also having their individual HUF and than if father dies than who will become the next karta of that fathers HUF because both the son are already having their HUF in which they both are karta and one person can not become the karta of 2 HUF, so pls suggest me what will happen in that case
1 we have to dissolve the fathers HUF or
2 the elder son can become the karta of 2 HUF

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Shiv Kukreja August 4, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Hi Nikhil… An individual can become the Karta of two different HUFs. In this case, the elder son will become the Karta of his father’s HUF and will continue to remain so as long as his mother is alive. At the same time, he will continue to remain the Karta of his own HUF. The original HUF will have to be dissolved once the mother is not there.

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Abhinav Gupta August 12, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Dear Mr.Shiv
The article and info given about HUF is good and informative as well…
I am giving you one condition in case of HUF account and please help me in finding out the solution for it.
Suppose that there are only 2 members in a family, a father(karta) and an unmarried son aged about 30 years. Now if the father dies, what will happen to huf and how will the proceedings of HUF be transferred into son’s individual accounts, whether it be bank balance, FD’s, shares or any other investment.

Abhinav Gupta

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Shiv Kukreja August 12, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Hi Mr. Abhinav… In this case, the HUF will get dissolved as there must be at least two people to run an HUF. All the assets will get transferred in the son’s name.

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Abhinav Gupta August 12, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Thanks for your early reply…But please let me know that how and what documents needs to be given to whom so that all this transfer may further take place….
please give me detailed answer explaining me whole procedure….

Thanks
_Abhinav

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Shiv Kukreja August 13, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Sorry Mr. Abhinav, I wont be able to explain you all the things here. Probably you need to meet a financial advisor or a legal professional or a CA for the same. But I’ll share whatever little I can or I know.

As the son must be the legal heir, all the assets legally belong to him. He first needs to check whether all the accounts & investments carry the nomination or not and if yes, he is the nominee in all of them or not. Also, if there is any ‘Will’ made by the father or not. He also needs to get the death certificate made and get it notarised as it would be required at most of the places.

He should approach all the respective banks, financial institutions & brokers to check their policies regarding the assets transfer and do the needful. Rest you should discuss it with an expert.

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SWATI CHHAPARIYA August 28, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Can a son start his HUF while the HUF of father is alive i.e.no partition took place.
If yes,how can it be done? How can the PAN for HUF be taken?
Minimum amount of gift required to start the HUF?

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Shiv Kukreja August 28, 2012 at 6:40 PM

Yes definitely, the son can start his own HUF while his father’s HUF is still there. He will remain a coparcener in his father’s HUF.

As mentioned above – “An HUF is automatically constituted the moment a person gets married”.

Please check this link to apply a new PAN: https://tin.tin.nsdl.com/pan/form49A.html
“Category of Applicant” is there at the bottom of this page.

As mentioned above – “For a PAN application, an affidavit by the Karta stating the name, father’s name and address of all the coparceners on the date of the application is considered sufficient as the document proof of identity of the HUF. Also, the identity and address proof of the karta will be treated as the address proof of the HUF.”

There is no stipulation for the minimum amount of gift required to start the HUF.

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KANUJ MAKKAR September 4, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Dear Shiv,
Interesting and most informative article so far i read on the issue of infusion of capital. Although this article and your trailing replies solved most of my queries still left with some doubts.

First, whether Karta wife’s ( who is obviously part of HUF) can give gift to HUF without attracting clubbing provisons?

Secondly, whether AO will induce clubbing provision in case if I give gift to my father of say 100000 by cheque and later on receives gift from him into my HUF by cheque. Is their any chance of doing this transaction ( like doing these two transaction is two seperate AY or something like that).

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Shiv Kukreja September 5, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Thanks Kanuj for your kind words!

None of the members of an HUF including Karta’s wife should give any gift to the HUF as it attracts clubbing of income.

Gifts received by “an individual” from specified relatives, including sons, are exempt from Income Tax. But the same does not apply to HUFs. While you can gift any amount to your father and avoid tax on it, if you receive a gift of more than Rs. 50000 from your father it will be chargeable to tax.

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VikasG September 9, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Hi Shiv,

The article says:

“But there is a way out one can transfer his personal assets or funds into the HUF if the income generated from these assets or from its investment results in a tax free income (like tax free bonds) and hence there is no scope of any tax liability due to clubbing of taxable income. This tax free income can then be reinvested to earn even taxable income and eventually all of the income would fall out of the clubbing provisions.”

I am trying to understand the phrase

“eventually all of the income would fall out of the clubbing provisions.”

Suppose I gift 100Rs to my HUF which invests the money in tax-free bonds. The interest that is being generated by the bonds every year now belongs to the HUF. Now, lets say the bonds mature after 15 years. When the bonds mature, the bond company will pay back 100Rs to the HUF. The interest that was generated is now owned by the HUF but what about the principal? Who is the owner of those 100Rs – the HUF/karta? If the HUF keeps the 100Rs and generates taxable income on it, would the clubbing provision still apply. If yes, keeping track of this after 15 years can be a big headache.

I am trying to understand how eventually *all of the income* will fall out of clubbing. Could you please explain a little. Thanks.

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Shiv Kukreja September 9, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Hi VikasG… Please read this line once again – “This “tax free income” can then be reinvested to earn even taxable income and eventually all of the income would fall out of the clubbing provisions”

Taking your example, suppose the HUF earns Rs. 8.30 tax-free income every year (and Rs. 124.50 in 15 years) on Rs. 100 invested, when this tax-free income is invested in any of the taxable instruments (say NCDs) earning 12% p.a., then all of the income 8.30% and then 12% on Rs. 8.30 would be tax-exempted.

After 15 years, the principal amount of Rs. 100 would belong to the HUF only. But, again investing this Rs. 100 in taxable instruments would invite clubbing of income, till the time the Karta is alive.

Equity MFs can also be considered for generating tax-free income or capital gain. Please let me know in case of any further query.

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VikasG September 9, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Thanks Shiv. I understand this now.

1) Is there any way the 100Rs can somehow move out of clubbing provisions?
2) Can the HUF return the original 100Rs back to karta after 15 years. From this point onwards, all of its money can be invested without any fear of clubbing provisions.

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Shiv Kukreja September 10, 2012 at 11:55 AM

1) I have no idea how this can be done except when the Karta is no more.

2) Yes, the HUF can return the original Rs. 100 back to the Karta after 15 years.

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VikasG September 9, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Assuming karta and its coparceners live together in a joint family.

Can the HUF’s money be used to pay the regular day-2-day expenses of karta+coparceners like:
– rent
– food/groceries
– doctors fees
– petrol
– utilities like electricity/phone bills.

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Shiv Kukreja September 10, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Yes, the HUF’s income can be used for the household expenses of the family.

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A Rao September 16, 2012 at 5:50 PM

If I have an HUF account at a bank and wish to deposit cheques/income recieved in my personal name as Karta or that of my coparceners in my HUF account, can my bank refuse this? If yes is it because its a totally different entity from me and my family members? Any RBI clarification on this available?

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Shiv Kukreja September 17, 2012 at 10:55 AM

Hi… It is strictly not allowed to deposit the cheque(s) received in favour of any of the members/coparceners into the HUF’s account. In case of investment accounts like demat account, which has to be mandatorily opened in the name of the Karta only, RBI has clarified that a mandate may be taken by banks from the accountholder that the cheques drawn in favour of ‘Karta’ can also be collected in the account of HUF and vice-versa.

https://nsdl.co.in/downloadables/pdf/Policy-A-M-C-Version-3.0.pdf

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S K Mittal September 20, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Dear Shiv
I have created a HUF, i would like to know, which income i can transfer to HUF account. I am a salaried person, for which i have a separate PAN no. and IT return is also filed separately. Can i transfer income generated as “income from other source” like income from family business or part time jobs etc in HUF account. Is it required to have each income to be deposited by cheque in HUF account.

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Shiv Kukreja September 23, 2012 at 1:10 PM

You cannot transfer any personal income to the HUF’s account. Income from part time jobs is purely your income and if you are running the business in your name, then also it is your income. If the business is operated in the HUF’s name, only then the income from such business can be transferred to the HUF’s account. Cash can also be deposited in an HUF’s account.

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Nitin Agarwal September 25, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Hi Shiv,
The information which you have shared is really very informative and helpful in understanding the HUF concept. One of my client is going to sell his ancestral property and have few understanding gaps in this, request to help me out on this:-

Background of the case:-
They are 2 brothers, one sister & mother, have one ancestral property which their great grandfather had purchased in 1932. It was inherited to their grandfather who was the only son. Their grandfather had distributed this property to his 2 sons in 1995 thru a family settlement by a court in which all the 3 daughters and other family members were the witnesses. It means their father became owner of this property in 1995 legally. Their father has expired in 2008 and ideally this property has been inherited to all 4 of them (2 brothers, one sister & mother). Now they are selling this property in 2012-13. The cost of purchase in 1932 was almost negligible. My Concerns are as follows:-
1. Is this property be treated as the HUF property as per Hindu law or any court of law.
2. If yes, than what would be the treatment as per Income Tax Act though they have not created any HUF as per Income Tax law.

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Shiv Kukreja September 27, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Hi Nitin… The father got his share of property after the court settlement and on his death, assuming there is no will by him also, the property would belong to the four members of the family in equal proportion. Now when this property is sold, the tax on the long-term capital gain on the sale of the property would be payable by these four members in their individual capacity in the same proportion.

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sumedh October 2, 2012 at 4:35 PM

Dear Shiv…..

Your posts are very informative and I feel fortunate to have read this thread. Thank you so much.

Their are some of my doubts related to HUF regarding which i will request your guidance

My HUF bank account has recieved capital from sale proceeds of ancestral property. I now want to invest the capital in some property in order to save capital gain. My queries are :
a) Can HUF purchase more than one residential units ( flats) out of the proceeds
b) I was informed that HUF can purchase a plot but some construction needs to be done within 3 years of purchase. Is it true ?
c) Can HUF purchase dwelling units ( flat) which is under construction. And for how many year it can enjoy tax exempt.

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Shiv Kukreja October 4, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Hi Sumedh… Thank you for your kind words!

Here are the answers to your queries:

a) No, an HUF cannot seek exemption u/s. 54 (and save Capital Gain tax) by investing the capital gain proceeds in more than one residential property. However, some exceptions are there, which I would term as some of the smart moves by the taxpayers. You can refer the cases from this link – http://www.taxmann.com/fileopener.aspx?stype=3&searchid=7047

b) Yes, a plot can also be purchased for getting exemption but the time period for completing the construction is 3 years from the date of transfer of the original capital asset.

c) Yes, an under-construction flat can also be purchased. The applicable years for the exemption with respect to an under-construction property would be 3 years.

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sumedh October 4, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Thank you Shiv for such a useful information. The taxmann link is of great help.

While reading it and further relating to Section 54F , the concept is bit clear to me.

One more quick query tough : In my case the sold assets were 2 different properties in the same city ( not being a residential house), so in this case can the original assets be considered different ? Any link of taxmann if you can provide that discuss it in detail it will be useful

Thank you very much for your cooperation in this matter.

Best
Sumedh

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Shiv Kukreja October 6, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Hi Sumedh… There is no restriction as to utilise the capital gain proceeds from the sale of two different non-residential properties but again, you will get exemption for buying only one residential property. Please check this link and see if it matches with your case somewhat.

http://www.simpletaxindia.net/2010/06/54f-capital-gain-exemption-two-plot.html

You are welcome with your queries and further participation!

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Rohit Agarwal October 4, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Dear Shiv,
Thanks a lot for this information

You are telling that we cannot transfer any income from our personal income then how a HUF will start his Business or Share Trading or any thing else a HUF is katra only, he’s not a different person
Very Simple question: I don’t want to pay huge Taxes from my Salaried Income and I am having a HUF account how I can save my Taxes can I deposit some cash in HUF account do there is any problem???
Or
Can I open a proprietorship company and save tax???

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Shiv Kukreja October 6, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Dear Rohit… HUF is a separate legal entity for taxation purposes. Karta is the head of an HUF and in that way, the caretaker of the HUF. You just cannot transfer your own income or income of any of the members of the HUF to save tax. The income generated out of investment from this fund transfer will attract clubbing of income. There is a way out to avoid this clubbing, which is mentioned above.

Capital Infusion or Capital Formation for the HUF has also been explained above in the post itself. It can be done by selling any of the ancestral property of the family or taking gifts from the relatives.

The income of your proprietorship firm will again get added to your personal income only. You can discuss your individual case with a financial advisor or CA to save tax.

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Harsh October 4, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Grandfather purchased land in 1960 in the name of the eldest son who was then 32. Grandfather has 4 sons. The sons are till date living together. Sons had a family business started by Grandfather since 1944. The property was purchased by Grandfather with the business income for which no proofs are availabl. Partnership deed since 1974 are available to proove that it was a jointly run business. elder son did not have ant other income apart from family business when the purchase was made. elder son is now claiming that it is an individual property. Please advice how can the other 3 brothers claim the rights. All the 4 daughters are also supporting the 3 brothers to claim the rights. Please advice.

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Shiv Kukreja October 6, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Hi Harsh… Your case would probably involve some legal advice also. This forum is probably not appropriate to discuss such matters. Kindly discuss the matter with a financial advisor or legal expert in personal. Thanks.

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Harsh October 10, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Hi Shiv, thanks for your reply. As you have suggested, will take this matter with the legal advisor. However whats your thoughts in this regard. Please throw some light regarding this.

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Shiv Kukreja October 10, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Hi Harsh… I’m sorry, this seems to be a complicated case and I think I’m not competent enough to make any statement in this regard. But still, I think the property is in the name of the eldest son and therefore it would be difficult for the younger sons to claim their share in the property.

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Manshu October 10, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Harsh, this type of forum is more suited to answering general questions, and I think you will do more harm than good in trying to answer your specific question which has legal implications by Googling for it.

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vijay pawar October 4, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Dear All,

I have a query with regard to HUF bank account operation, kindly clarify.

Kindly clarify whether Karta of HUF can route his personal transactions through the HUF account.

For Ex:can a deposit into HUF account a cheque which is issued in his individual name?

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Shiv Kukreja October 6, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Hi Vijay… HUF is a separate legal entity for financial and taxation purposes. It is strictly not allowed to deposit the cheque(s) received in favour of Karta or any of the members/coparceners into the HUF’s account. Only in case of investment accounts like demat account, which has to be mandatorily opened in the name of the Karta only, RBI has clarified that a mandate may be taken by banks from the accountholder that the cheques drawn in favour of ‘Karta’ can also be collected in the account of HUF and vice-versa.

https://nsdl.co.in/downloadables/pdf/Policy-A-M-C-Version-3.0.pdf

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jaya October 9, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Hi!
I would like to know if HUF can gift money to karta/coparceners. If yes,Karta/ coparcener is purchasing a property and can HUF gift the money which can then be used to purchase the property?

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Shiv Kukreja October 10, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Hi Jaya… HUF should not give any gifts to the Karta or any of its members as it attracts clubbing. The money should be transferred only at the time of formal partition.

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jaya October 10, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Thanks Shiv.
Can the money from HUF be given as loan to karta/coparcener?

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Shiv Kukreja October 10, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Yes, a loan can be given.

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jaya October 10, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Thank you for clearing my doubts.

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Shiv Kukreja October 10, 2012 at 2:43 PM

You are most welcome! 🙂

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DIVYESH GOLWALA October 9, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Mr. MCA is unmarried son of CCA. His father’s HUF is in existence. His mother and father both are alive. Mr. MCA has no brother and sister. Hence, his father’s HUF consists of 3 persons, i.e. CCA [father karta], Mr. MCA [Son of CCA] and JCA [MOTHER OF Mr. MCA]. Now, can the unmarried son MCA starts his HUF having two members; himself [=MCA] as male KARTA and mother JCA ? Thus without getting married, can MCA start his own HUF consisting of Mr. MCA [Male Karta] and his mother Mrs. JCA? [Father is alive and father’s HUF is also in existence.]

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DIVYESH GOLWALA October 9, 2012 at 9:21 PM

Mr. MCA is unmarried son of CCA. His father’s HUF is in existence. His mother and father both are alive. Mr. MCA has no brother and sister. Hence, his father’s HUF consists of 3 persons, i.e. CCA [father karta], Mr. MCA [Son of CCA] and JCA [MOTHER OF Mr. MCA]. Now, can the unmarried son MCA starts his HUF having two members; himself [=MCA] as male KARTA and mother JCA ? Thus without getting married, can MCA start his own HUF consisting of Mr. MCA [Male Karta] and his mother Mrs. JCA? [Father is alive and father’s HUF is also in existence.]– Please advise me. — THANKS

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Shiv Kukreja October 10, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Hi Divyesh… It is not possible.

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Harsh October 10, 2012 at 3:52 PM

The income tax paid by one of the partner of a firm is paid through the current account of the firm.

The tax return files for this partner is a HUF LR tax return. The property tax paid for the property in the partners name is provisioned in this tax return.

Does this mean / provide enough evidence to prove that the property belongs to HUF and not an individual property of the partner.

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Harsh October 10, 2012 at 3:53 PM

The income tax paid by one of the partner of a firm is paid through the current account of the firm.

The tax return files for this partner is a HUF LR tax return. The property tax paid for the property in the partners name is provisioned in this tax return.

Does this mean / provide enough evidence to prove that the property belongs to HUF and not an individual property of the partner. Please advice….

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Shiv Kukreja October 10, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Hi Harsh… Again, I am not competent enough to help you in this matter.

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Rupin Merchant October 13, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Dear,

I read one article by which I am confused. So, I want to clarify that.

1. Whether Karta or any member of the HUF can give gifts of any amount to HUF ?
2. Whether HUF can give gifts to Karta or its any members of any amount ?

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Shiv Kukreja October 16, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Neither Karta or any member of the HUF should give any gift to the HUF nor the HUF should give any gift to any of its members. Both attract clubbing of income.

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Jimesh October 19, 2012 at 4:10 PM

1. Can an individual who provides IT consultancy business generate bills in the name of a HUF and get a service tax number with respect to the same. Can he claim salary from the HUF firm being a Karta or a co-parcener
2. Can a new HUF be formed in the name of women. When both the husband and son are alive and there is no HUF created in the past by either of the family members.

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Shiv Kukreja October 19, 2012 at 6:22 PM

Hi Jimesh,
1. Bills of an individual cannot be used as the expenses of the HUF. As mentioned above – “Karta can be paid a reasonable salary for his services of managing day to day affairs of the HUF. The salary will be considered his personal income but at the same time it is deductible as an expense from the books of the HUF”.
2. In the conditions above mentioned, new HUF cannot be formed.

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Viral October 20, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Hi Shiv,
You had said in your article that two female co-parceners can continue the HUF on the death of the Karta and in the absence of any other male member. Could you please tell me where is this mentioned in the law as my bank is not willing to make the senior most female member as the Karta.

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Shiv Kukreja October 20, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Hi Viral,
Please check this link for your reference:
http://www.financialexpress.com/news/a-female-can-become-karta-of-huf/85243/
“when an existing HUF is reduced to only female members, it can still continue as an HUF with one of the females as a karta. This is in view of the existence of the potential coparcenary as any widow may, in future, induct a coparcener into the family by adoption. CIT v RM AR AR Veerappa Chettiar (’70) 76ITR467 (SC)”

http://www.standardchartered.co.in/_documents/Deceased_Depositors_Policy.pdf
“In cases where there are no male members or male members are minor then eldest
female co-parcenor can be accepted as KARTA”

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G Subhasree October 20, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Dear Mr.Shiv,

The article and the subsequent answers to queries were informative. Thanks for the same.
I have one doubt:

Can a commodity trading business be undertaken in the name of HUF and can the income earned as commission be booked in HUF’s books? Can such business be undertaken by the Kartha for the welfare of the HUF. The HUF is already in existence for last 5 years and has already been filing tax returns separately.

Thanks

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Shiv Kukreja October 20, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Thanks G Subhasree!
An HUF can run any business but its operations should not be mixed with any other entity’s or individual’s operations. The capital required to start the business should be taken from the HUF’s bank account and the income earned should be deposited in the HUF’s bank account only.

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ARYAN October 25, 2012 at 6:42 PM

My Father does not have any HUF. My father is living with me. Can My Father gift his personal savings to my HUF without attracting any Gift Tax or any clubbing provisoins

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Shiv Kukreja October 26, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Hi Aryan… As mentioned in the article – “A father can also gift money to his son’s HUF but need to specify in the gift deed that the gift has been made to the son’s HUF and not to the son as an individual”.

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MP Jain October 29, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Dear Sir,

Can HUF start trading activities like purchasing and selling item and servicing / maintnance etc.

What are the limitations

Any Limit of the Turn over and other formalities required from Tax and other C-form / State taxes / TIN number etc

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Shiv Kukreja October 29, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Dear MP Jain,
An HUF is eligible to do any business activity and there is no restriction as such. You need to consult a CA to get more info regarding the turnover and other tax related formalities.

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Atul Gupta November 2, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Very Informative.

I am Karta of an HUF which has my wife and 2 minor daughters as its members. The HUF has investments in Bank FDs, mutual funds, and equity shares.

I would like to know the following:

1. In case of death of Karta, who will be entitled to inherit these investments?

2. Is there a nomination facility available in HUF Bank and demat accounts so that transmission in casse of death of Karta is smooth?

3. Do I have any other option at my disposal e.g. will from HUF which will help in smooth transmission after the death of Karta? Or suggest best way in this respect.

4. What will be the status of my daughters once they attain 18 years of age?

Thanks, Atul

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Shiv Kukreja November 3, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Thanks Atul!

1. “In the event of the death of the Karta and in the absence of any male member, two females can continue to run the HUF and the senior female can take over as the Karta”.

2. Nomination facility is not available to the HUFs for bank and demat accounts. On the death of the ‘Karta’, the operations in the accounts must be stopped immediately.

3. The members can open new bank and demat accounts and transfer money/securities from the old accounts to the new accounts.

4. Please reframe your query.

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Vijay Dhody November 7, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Dear Shiv
Thnaks for a Very nice & informative article. I have HUF demat account & my HUF members are my wife & a daughter
As per the answer in above quarry.
after the death of the Karta in case of a demat account The members can open new bank and demat accounts and transfer money/securities from the old accounts to the new accounts. (
Can this new accounts ( bank & Demat) be HUF accounts? ( As my wife would be a karta)
Further you also mentioned On the death of the ‘Karta’, the operations in the accounts ( bank & Demat) must be stopped immediately , Then what would be the role of Karta ( My wife) ? & what would be status of HUF?
Regards
Vijay

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Shiv Kukreja November 8, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Thanks Mr. Vijay!

As you must be aware, a demat account gets opened in the name of the Karta only and not in the name of the HUF. In your absence, your family cannot run the existing bank and demat accounts. So, new bank and demat accounts will have to be opened and yes, these will be HUF accounts.

What role you are performing at present, your wife would play that role in your absence and the new HUF, in which your wife would be a Karta, would replace the existing HUF. I hope this clears your query!

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Sridharan S November 21, 2012 at 8:04 AM

Dear Sir,
Can you provide me the format of Affidavit to be filed for application of PAN for HUF? Should I prepare the affidavit on stamp paper (please let me know the stamp duty) or plai paper?

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Shiv Kukreja November 21, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Hi Sridharan… You can get the affidavit made similar to the “FORMAT-I” available on this link – http://taxguru.in/income-tax/got-married-create-huf-to-save-tax-format-of-deed-for-creation-of-huf.html

Just remove the ‘gift’ text out of it. Also, I think it should be made on a stamp paper of Rs. 100.

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Sridharan S November 22, 2012 at 7:24 AM

Mr. Shiv Kukreja,
Thank you very much

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Shiv Kukreja November 22, 2012 at 10:25 AM

You are welcome!

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Arun Kumar Saxena November 21, 2012 at 7:51 PM

The articles are really excellent.I am interested in further updates in the matter.Thanks.
A.K.Saxena

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Hiren Doshi November 22, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Sir,
I am running a trading business of packaging machineries. My wife is also running same business with different name. Both of us are proprietors of our respective ferms. Now, can a start another firm under proprietorship of Huf (which is yet to be formed) which maintains the machines sold by both of our firms and chages our firms for the same. So practically both firms will pay labour charges to huf and take up that as an expense and Huf will generate income. Will this attract clubbing of income ?

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Shiv Kukreja November 23, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Hi Hiren… Not 100% sure about it. But I think it should not attract clubbing of income if everything is done professionally with your respective incomes. All the entities involved have their legal identity and can do business legitimately.

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Hiren Doshi November 26, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Thanks a lot Shiv.

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Shiv Kukreja November 26, 2012 at 1:17 PM

You are welcome Hiren!

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ANANT KR DAS December 6, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Sir,
I got so many points about HUF. I want to know that what are the necessary documents to open a HUF account in Bank? A HUF can be in some person’s name like Anant Kr. HUF?

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Shiv Kukreja December 7, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Hi Anant,

Please check this link to know what all documents you require for an HUF savings account:
http://www.icicibank.com/business-banking/transation-banking/cluster-current-ac/documentation.html

‘HUF’ will be added to Karta’s full name as the name of your HUF.

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HEMA DESAI December 11, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Dear Shiv

Can HUF be created by son under following sitation
There is no father HUF
Father is deceased
Father has not left any will
Father’s Bank Account is ran by mother
Now can HUF be created by mentioning I son of late shri xyz delacre that i have reciev sum of Rs. 20000 from late shri XYZ……………….

If not can mother give gift to Son’s HUF for creation of HUF?

Pl clarify

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Shiv Kukreja December 13, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Father’s HUF cannot be created after his death but if it already exists, the same can continue with son taking the responsibilities of Karta. For creation of son’s HUF, he needs to get married first and acquire a family. Sisters and mother cannot become member of son’s HUF.

Mother can gift money to her son’s HUF but need to specify in the gift deed that the gift has been made to the son’s HUF and not to the son as an individual.

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Himanshi December 24, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Hello Shiv,

Can a HUF transfer its property by will or the property of HUF can be transferred only on partition of HUF.

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Shiv Kukreja December 26, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Hi Himanshi,
As far as I know it is possible only on the partition of the HUF.

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Venkat January 7, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Hi Shiv,
Thanks for the information on HUF that is very educative.
A lone male member became the Karta of an HUF and inherited its property. Later he married and his wife joined as a member of the HUF. After a few years she died and the couple was childless. Now I presume the HUF had only member who was none other than the Karta of the HUF (correct me if I am wrong). After a few years he adopted a girl to be his daughter.
In the above context, I want to have clarifications/answers on the following –
1. Did the adopted daughter become a member of the HUF?
2. Can the adopted daughter’s husband become a member of the HUF upon marriage?
3. Any lineage of the adopted member can also become member(s) of the HUF?
I would greatly appreciate if the above clarifications are provided.
Thanks,
Venkat

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Shiv Kukreja January 7, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Hi Venkat… First of all, a lone male person cannot form an HUF until he gets married and become the Karta of that HUF. If the HUF is created after he gets married, in that case, 1) the adopted daughter can become a member of the HUF. 2) Adopted daughter’s husband cannot become a member of the HUF. 3) No lineage of the adopted member can become a member of the HUF.

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Venkat January 7, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Hi Shiv,
Thanks for your reply!
I am afraid that I did not put the contextual information in a manner that could be understood unambiguously. So let me rephrase it. There had been an HUF with a male head, his wife and his son. After the demise of the father and the mother, what is the status of the HUF as the son is the only person left to manage the HUF?
Venkat

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Shiv Kukreja January 7, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Hi Venkat… In that case, the HUF will come to an end. The son will have to create his own HUF once he gets married.

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Venkat January 7, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Thanks Shiv for your instant reply.
Best,
Venkat

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Shiv Kukreja January 7, 2013 at 9:18 PM

You are most welcome Venkat!

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harmeet k singh January 9, 2013 at 3:58 AM

I have a quetion, when father was alive can he ask his son to break the HUf so that he can divide it equally among his children. This was done in 2003, but the other law came in 2005 which automatically gives equal share to daughters and sons.

The son did so, now can the father will all this property just to his wife and leave all 4 children with nothing, even though he build this with ansector money.

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harmeet singh January 23, 2013 at 3:08 AM

no answer recd yet from you

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Manshu January 23, 2013 at 6:41 AM

This is a legal question and I don’t think anyone here is qualified to answer your question, you will need to contact a lawyer for this.

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harmeet k singh January 9, 2013 at 3:59 AM

can an huf be broken.

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harmeet singh January 23, 2013 at 3:09 AM

no answer recd.

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Shiv Kukreja January 23, 2013 at 4:39 PM

An HUF can undergo partition.

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AJAY JAIN January 22, 2013 at 9:50 AM

can HUF give gift of excess funds to karta’s wife….

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Shiv Kukreja January 23, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Hi Ajay… HUF should not give any gifts to any of its members as it attracts clubbing. The money should be transferred only at the time of formal partition.

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khushbu January 22, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Can a member claim his/her share while asking for desolution of a firm or partnership firm ? under which act ?

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Shiv Kukreja January 23, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Sorry Khushbu, you need to consult a CA/law expert for your query.

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harmeet singh January 23, 2013 at 3:09 AM

what kind of moderation

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Mitesh January 23, 2013 at 7:07 PM

Hi,
Thank you for the informative articles.

I am a NRI and my parents stay in India.

My father plans to open an HUF with the intention to buy and register the property (around 1Cr) under the HUF.

The reasoning for opening the HUF is to save on wealth tax and avail of loan deductions under the income tax act.

We are still trying to understand how to transfer the required funds to the HUF (almost 50%-50% from my father and me)

My questions :

1. Do I automatically become a member of my father’s HUF ?
2. If not, can I gift the required amount to my father’s HUF ?
3. If yes, how can I ensure that the HUF has the necessary funds. Can I loan the required amount periodically to the HUF ?
4. How can my father contribute towards meeting the apartment cost. Can he also loan the amount ?
5. Can my mother and I be specified as nominees in the property registration. Will that be enough to ensure ownership of property ?
6. What happens if HUF is specified as nominee ?

Above questions are with the intention to save on prevention of clubbing of income.

Thank you.

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Shiv Kukreja February 5, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Hi Mitesh… Here are the answers to your queries:
1) Yes, you will automatically become a member of your father’s HUF.
3) Yes, you can give a loan to the HUF.
4) Yes, your father can also give a loan to the HUF.
5) You need to consult a CA or a lawyer for this query.
6) Didnt get your query.

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anil January 31, 2013 at 12:07 PM

i am a salaried person and having a HUF a/c also. can i transfered my saving to huf a/c and put FD in HUF a/c and save tax. can i transfered my saving to huf a/c and open a demat a/c in the name of HUF and invest in shares. what will be other way to save the tax.

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Shiv Kukreja February 5, 2013 at 1:00 AM

An HUF needs to have its own capital to invest in financial instruments like FDs, shares etc. Please consult a CA or a financial advisor to get more details on options to save tax.

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Sandeep Arora February 3, 2013 at 6:48 PM

I have a HUF created last year. I need to put some money in cash in HUF A/c which have been collected by me given as Cash gifts on occassions.
I want to know How Can I as Karta use the money in case or emergency.
If i withdraw that money or transfer to my account will it be taxable. in my hands.

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Shiv Kukreja February 5, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Hi Sandeep… You can use HUF’s money/income on family expenses and it will not be taxable. But it should not be used for individual purposes.

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sandeep February 5, 2013 at 3:11 PM

thanks for the help.
Can I put cash into HUF A/c as it has been received as petty gifts on different occassions.

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Shiv Kukreja February 6, 2013 at 11:52 PM

Whatever money you deposit into the HUF bank account, you should have the required proofs that the gifted money belongs to the HUF. It would be required in case the I-T authorities require it for the verification of income source.

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Prabodh February 8, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Very information and very well written article! I am recently married and have already created a HUF which has a small corpus of a few thousand rupees based on gifts received for festivals from relatives. Recently, my parents sold their house and intend to gift the proceeds after taxation and Section 54EC investments to us (i.e. my HUF). Given that this amount exceeds Rs.50,000, will it be considered proceeds of sale of ancestral property and can be taken into the HUF account without any tax impact? If yes, is a cheque payment by my parents to HUF sufficient, or should they also do a gift deed to my HUF? Or will the proceeds, if transferred, be treated as income to HUF?

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Manikaran Singal June 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Manshu/Shiv

Do you know this person. This article is 100% copy of yours http://bhavikkshah.blogspot.in/2012/07/hindu-undivided-family-huf-better-way.html

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tvraao July 8, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Can HUF raise interest free loans from its members as well from others ?

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Manshu July 8, 2013 at 9:05 PM

It can get gifts which I think serve the same thing as interest free loans unless you have something else in mind. I don’t know whether they can get interest free loans or not but I haven’t read anything that says it is not allowed so I think it should be okay to get an interest free loan.

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Vivek Mandot August 27, 2013 at 7:41 PM

I have questions that are not asked till now in this forum

1. We are three brothers, can my Father create his HUF with He himself, my Mother and only one or two brothers into his HUF. Is it mandatory that All the three bothers will become members of His HUF.
2. After Marriage of any of brothers, will their wives automatically become member of Father’s HUF or they will not become members
3. During the formation of HUF, whether my Father have any say in including members into His HUF.( like grand son, grand daughters etc)

4. If I start my HUF after marraige, can I loan amount to HUF to invest in stocks. In case HUF get return on this Investment (like shares, futures and options, or commodities ETF etc), will it be clubbed with my income ( i am salaried).
5. Can this loanto HUF be Interest free or I should charge nominal interest like 4-5% to avoid clubbing provisions

Regards

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hk desai October 6, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Dear Shiv
1. I & my wife received cash gift (Rs.51000/-) from my parents on our marriage anniversary. I have created a HUF bank account and put money there. I am a salaried person, for which i have a separate PAN no. and IT return is also filed separately. We do not have anything in writing. Is it alright ? Is it required to have gift by check or a sale deed.
2. HUFdoes not have any immovable assest .
3. an HUF utilise this money and other cash gifts received by family members ( on birthday or marriage anniversary ) and loan from members of HUF to start a small business ?

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hk desai October 6, 2013 at 6:36 PM

1. My HUF does not have any immovable assest . I & my wife received cash gift (Rs.51000/-) from my parents on our marriage anniversary. I have created a HUF bank account and put money there. We do not have anything in writing about this gift. Does keeping this money in HUF account will attract clubbing ?

2.Is it required for HUF to receive gift by cheque or a gift deed.

3. Can cash gifts received by family members ( on birthday or marriage anniversary ) be transferred to HUF account ?
4. An HUF without movable asset can take loan from members and start a small business ?

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Taral Patel December 24, 2013 at 7:30 AM

I am 45 today. I received Rs. 2 Lakhs Cash on various occasions, in Diwali Gifts, Marriage, Birthdays etc which my mom gave me recently. I got married at 22. Obviously, this is CASH received from various relatives and that too 18 years ago to my mom for which I have no receipts.

Can I open HUF a/c with this initial corpus of Rs. 2 Lakhs which I got cash from mom and deposit this amount received as gifts as initial capital during HUF formation?

I was needing this cash money for my angiography – so didn’t open HUF last year but now have got mediclaim received in my a/c. Can I form HUF with this corpus?

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rohit chadha December 28, 2013 at 1:09 AM

Dear Shiv
i have a query.
If a property is gifted by the father to his son and the son treats the rent received on it as his HUF income , without transferring the propety to the HUF, then does the propety becomes the propety of HUF or no , as it remains in the son/kartas name and is not transferred to HUF.
Can the son will this propety to any one of his heirs or it remains the propety of the HUF and all the members of the huf have equal rights to the property.
Please clarify.

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DESAI December 28, 2013 at 9:49 AM

I think property must be owned by HUF, once it is owned by HUF it may not be willed by Karta.

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Avinash January 3, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Hi,

Thank you for the nice article. I have couple of questions. My father was a retd govt employee. He created HUF and transfered some of his amount to HUF – only enough, not to attarct tax. He passed away, leaving me and my mother as the members of his HUF.

1. Can I add my wife and children to this HUF?
2. Can the FDs, MFs, shares and insurance amount received upon his death by mother as nominee be transfered to HUF (no such will exists)?

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Avinash January 24, 2014 at 2:39 PM

Hi Shiv, could you please share your xpert opinion on my question? Or anyone else wants to give it a shot?

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DESAI January 24, 2014 at 4:15 PM

I THINK YES

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Ritesh Agarwal January 6, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Hi Shiv,

Thanks a ton for sharing the information. This is indeed a great thread on HUF. I have some questions regarding HUF and I would really appreciate if you could help me.

My cousin was the Karta of a HUF. He is survived by his wife and two minor children. HUF invested in mutual funds, FDs, equity shares (through demat) etc. Here are my questions:

1. What is the best option to either continue / discontinue the HUF?
2. Do you think that succession certificate will help?
3. Who can be the Karta if a new HUF is formed and the particulars of old HUF is transferred in the new HUF?
4. Any pointers on the process for q2 and q3 will greatly help me

Thanks in advance for your help

Ritesh

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DESAI January 24, 2014 at 4:17 PM

I thnink better to continue HUF.

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Santosh Kumar Agarwal February 9, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Sir
I have gone through your article. It helps very much to in reach my knowledge.
For better understanding please reply the under noted
A family consist of the followings:
a. Karta
b. Wife of Karta
c. 1 Married son along with his wife and 2 son and 1 daugher
d. 1 Married son with his wife
e. 1 Unmarried son
f. 1 Married daughter and her husband 1 son and 1 daughter
g. I Married daughter and her husband
h. 1 Unmarried daughter.

In the above circumstances please mention who are the members of family, who are coparceners and at what percentage they get their shares if the HUF dissolve right now.

Your valuable reply will highly appreciated.

Santosh

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amit jain March 10, 2014 at 11:11 PM

can a mother who is a doctor can give a gift of Rs. 15 lacs to his son’s huf is this amount is exempt from gift tax and whether any clubbing provision will attract ?
if gift is taken in individual capacity and then transferred to huf then whaa will be the tax implication?

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DESAI March 12, 2014 at 1:09 PM

In my opinion

1. There shall not be any Gift tax and clubbing.
2. If individual transfers to HUF, clubbing provision shall be applicable

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ankit May 3, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Is there any immovable property constructed by an partnership firm formed by the individual members of h.u.f being trasferred to h.u.f ?

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chint May 12, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Hi Shiv, i have a query on nomination as below. appreciate if you can reply at earliest.

My father is the karta of the HUF account. please can you confirm the successor as karta’s wife i.e my mother ? and whether the successor can use all the funds ?

Concern is around the nomination which HUF a/c doesn’t allow. my father wants to pass on the HUF a/c’s investment amount to my mother which is logically correct. Appreciate if you can suggest some other alternative on nomination front.

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DESAI May 13, 2014 at 11:18 AM

What is constitution of HUF ?

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S.K.Mehta June 23, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Very informative & useful article .
Pls.forward your further views in future as well at my above e-mail address.
Tks. & Regards

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Dharmesh Hazariwala August 23, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Though only one male member of a family son become absoulute hounour of his fathers property, with the permission of his mother. Son who gets property run huf of account of his father. Now son can give this property to his child by will?

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ajay jain February 17, 2015 at 12:15 AM

mr shiv
i want to know that
Can HUF earn commission income without investing any funds of HUF and the Karta only puts in all the efforts for earning the commission

kindly reply soon

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hk desai March 2, 2015 at 5:17 PM

In opinon answer is “YES”.

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AMIT March 8, 2015 at 4:57 PM

we are having a house on the name of my mother only, we have taken a joint loan on the name of my mother, father and myself.
the whole EMI is paid by me only.
is it possible I can apply for tax relief if I use HUF.
how to transfer the property to HUF, any documentation required??

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HK DESAI March 9, 2015 at 10:55 AM

In opinon answer is “NO”.

I feel that only owner can get Tax concession.

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vikas March 20, 2015 at 12:15 AM

Hello,

I have a query can you please guide ? – My query is that suppose one receives money from sale of flat which one inherited. The proceeds of the flat are invested in Capital bonds to save tax. Once the capital bonds mature can this proceeds be used to infuse capital to create HUF?

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Mani April 18, 2015 at 9:33 PM

1. My father karta of HUF
2. My mother karta of wife(Mother died)
3. Three daughters of karta all are married.
4. Myself only son of karta.

One year before my father died, so we need to know below details
1. Who is the next karta?
2.Who is the coparceners?
3.Who is the members?

Kindly give me your valuable suggestion.

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HK DESAI April 29, 2015 at 3:08 PM

In my opinoin
1. U r Karta
2.Sisters r coparceners.
3.Ur wife and kids of U are members

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Sanjay Mudbidri April 29, 2015 at 12:04 PM

I have a HUF and want to transfer funds from my HUF account to my personal account, can I do it and what are the implications of this.
I am the karta with two sons and both are coparceners in the HUF. One of my son is with me while my second son has started on his own. Can my son take any objection if I transfer funds from the HUF account to my personal account??

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HK DESAI April 29, 2015 at 3:10 PM

In my opinoin ur son can take objection, if fund is transferred without reasonable consideration.

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vikas April 29, 2015 at 4:34 PM

Dear Sir

Request your advice on my query?

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HK DESAI April 30, 2015 at 4:47 PM

In my opinion,
1. If inherrited property is transferred to HUF by consent of all copercener, then YES.
Else

2. If one receives assets/capital in personnel capacity,then sale proceed is not part of HUF. However one can transfer to HUF but Clubbing provision may be applied on taxation, which may not be beneficial.

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Arun August 26, 2015 at 9:48 PM

Hi.. very informative piece.. thanks!
pls clarify 1more info- dDoes a married sister ( married 40 years back) who has never been the coparcener or ever applied for it can claim a partition of HUF? Can she apply for dissolution of Huf? An ancestral property in the Huf… how much rights does a married sister has on the property when the brother is the karta.

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nitin September 29, 2015 at 5:06 PM

I have created huf account. I am karta. may I start new business under HUF .pl give me advice.

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nitin September 29, 2015 at 5:08 PM

I have created huf account. I am karta. may I start new business under HUF .pl give me advice. you can call me on 9822622093 or leave your mob.no on my mail I’d.so that I can call you.

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Pradeep Kataria December 8, 2015 at 12:20 PM

Thanks Shiv for such informative post on HUF. While it mentioned multiple time in this post that a Father who is not having any HUF account can give a gift via a gift deed to his Son’s HUF which was created by his SON after his marriage and birth of a child with registration date as DOB of child. It is also clear that gift deed has to be in the name of Son’s HUF account & not individual name. My few queries are as below, plz help reply.

1. Can father gift any items in kind like jwellwry etc & are there any value limitations.

2. Is the gift received in this case from Father taxable.

3. Can Son sell those items & take payment of the same in same HUF bank account.

4. Is the gift deed need to be registered or only Notarised deed sufficient.

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Harsh Dedhia April 14, 2016 at 11:02 AM

I have gone through many comments still i have a very basic doubt.
i am a married man and will soon fall in 30% tax bracket.
I was thinking of opening an HUF account. Transfer some of my personal funds in HUF account and start stock trading in name of HUF. So that atleast short term gains income generated from stock trading will not attract tax as high as 30%.
Can i transfer my funds to HUF account and do trading

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vikram July 8, 2016 at 12:32 PM

Dear all,

can karta withdraw some money from the HUF and show it as capital in his individual assessment???

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Dilip August 3, 2016 at 11:20 AM

Very informative article and I must say it is a little more to digest at one go…! 🙂

Just wanted to enquire… I’m employed as a full time employee at one of the firms. However, on a part time basis, I also work as a lecturer at one of the colleges to earn a little extra to support my family. Can I apply for a HUF PAN card and credit the salary gained from my part time work in it to gain tax benefits?

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